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Barrons Article on Gambling Stocks May Finally Provide a Catalyst for their Fall E-mail
Written by David Neubert   
Sunday, 18 November 2007

Throughout the mania of the expansion of the moneyed class in China, I've watched the gambling stocks with the frustration of "I should have seen this coming" as Las Vegas Sands (LVS - $118.76) made its meteoric rise. But for much of this year I've been thinking that the gambling stocks were overvalued, and didn't want to short them until I saw a catalyst that would drive them down.  Perhaps this Barrons article that focuses on Las Vegas Sands (LVS - $118.76), Wynn Resorts (WYNN - $134.50 ) and MGM  (MGM - $88.62) is it.  Judy Weill, SeekingAlpha editor, provides a nice summary.  If you want to read the actual article at Barrons.com, it will cost you.

I do think gambling will continue to have a great future for those who invest in it.  As I heard Charlie Munger say at the 2007 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder meeting, gambling is a tax on the uninformed.  But heck, the uninformed just keep getting richer.  For now, these gambling stocks with a Chinese connection are way ahead of themselves.  They are pricing in google-like growth rates in earnings.  I do not think they will see that type of earnings growth, which can only mean that stock prices have to drop to meet reality. Harrahs Casino New Orleans Sign from Zephyr Stadium Disclosure: I have no position in (LVS - $118.76), (WYNN - $134.50 ) or (MGM - $88.62) .  Depending on market action, I may enter a short position in one or all of them this week.  I gamble at casinos for entertainment (not for profit).  I am a nerd when it comes to gambling and I know exactly how much edge I'm giving away with every roll of the dice.  Yeah, craps is about the only game I'll play.  Slots is boring and you don't meet anybody, black jack is too much like work with all that counting I have to do - and counting just gets me to even anyway - I'm not good enough at it with six decks to actually get ahead.  But craps is free drinks, people yelling, human interaction with people who don't understand the independent trials concept from probability. I can usually handle it for an evening or two, after that I get craps burnout that lasts nearly a year.  Luckily for my income I've never caught trader burnout.

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written by Nancy Davis , November 19, 2007
Davis,

I am suprised that one who considers himself socially responsible would be investing in gambling stocks. A friend just introduced me to your website so I haven't read a lot of your stuff (I was tracking Thain and MER which I bought at $56.) Can you reconcile your position? Is there a financial conscience with which you invest?

Nancy D.
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written by David Neubert , November 19, 2007
Thanks for the comment Nancy.

My social consciousness thinks that gambling should be dealt with through regulation that protects people. I'd rather it be a legal activity and regulated than handled by the mafia.

Usually, when people refer to socially responsible that means, avoiding stocks whose managements or activities you disagree with. I'd rather own the stock and try to change the company unless the activity is something I just can't sleep at night with. (gun production, cigarettes).

I encourage everyone to look for their own investing ethics. I know Christians who refuse to invest in Disney (I think some engage in activism as well) because they give same sex partner health benefits. I do not agree with that position but I do agree with people investigating their own morality.

I hope that helps. Your question is a complex one and engages the very mission of this site.

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written by David Neubert , November 19, 2007
At 10:00am I shorted LVS at 114.63. (1/3 position size)
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written by David Neubert , November 20, 2007
Today, my stop loss kicked in and I bought back to cover LVS short at $113.56 - Having stop losses on short term trades like this is very important. Disciplined traders live to fight another day. Anyway, I took my profits then went through my normal discipline to analyze what I would want my position to be in the case when I have no position. The answer: I still wanted to be short. So I re-shorted the stock again at $113.60. As the market closed and the stock was at $110.50. I'm going to stay short. I'm putting in my stop loss at about a dollar lower price than $113.56 this time.
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